Somatic Experiencing and Astrology

about kirby moore: i have a busy private practice in charlottesville, virginia, where i offer process-oriented bodywork, somatic experiencing and in-person astrology interpretations. plus i offer somatic experiencing and astrology over distance sessions (using zoom). you can email me at kirby [at] to check on availability.

this post is about the benefits of using astrology to help guide bodywork and somatic experiencing (trauma resolution types of bodywork)

i practice western astrology. however, i have an eastern background. i have practiced buddhism since 2005 (officially taking refuge in 2006), and i started meditating with a zen teacher back in 2002. plus i love qigong and tai chi, along with studying elements of chinese medicine (acupressure, shiatsu, and 5-element theory).

i have been trained in various bodywork modalities – including visceral manipulation (working with the visceral organs to release stress and strain and occasionally the emotions that go with them), craniosacral therapy (working with the cerebrospinal fluid, the meninges of the skull, the ventricles and membranes of the brain; CST benefits many issues from depression and anxiety to back strains and headaches) and somatic techniques (Zapchen Somatics is a collection of easy to practice, playful exercises which help us to move toward well-being, and which sneakily support us to move toward fuller embodiment).

and more recently, well since 2012, i have been studying polyvagal theory, working with the vagus nerve (system) and somatic experiencing. so i am becoming trauma informed in the work and classes i offer. here is more on somatic experiencing: (this description comes from Andrea Gage, a very competent SE provider)

SE is a short-term naturalistic approach to the resolution and healing of trauma developed by dr. Peter Levine and is supported by research. it is based upon the observation that wild prey animals, though threatened routinely, are rarely traumatized. animals in the wild utilize innate mechanisms to regulate and discharge the high levels of energy arousal associated with defensive survival behaviors. these mechanisms provide animals with a built-in “immunity’’ to trauma that enables them to return to normal in the aftermath of highly ‘’charged’’ life-threatening experiences.

  • —  SE employs awareness of body sensation to help people “renegotiate” and heal rather than re-live or re-enact trauma.
  • —  SE’s guidance of the bodily “felt sense,” allows the highly aroused survival energies to be safely experienced and gradually discharged.
  • —  SE may employ touch in support of the renegotiation process.
  • —  SE “titrates” experience (breaks down into small, incremental steps), rather than evoking catharsis – which can overwhelm the regulatory mechanisms of the organism.

i have personally found SE to be most beneficial in that it opened multiple new doors, showing various tools and techniques for working with the autonomic nervous system and helping to restore wholeness after the disconnection of traumatic experiences. the fascinating part for me, is that SE teaches a model or template as it were, and if we are sharp and creative, we can apply this model to new situations, new symptoms and new clients. in other words, we can tweak techniques to be individualized to different clients, meaning that the 50+ techniques we learn in SE training can become 100’s of varied techniques when applied to different people or different symptom presentations!

knowing that once we start to gain compentency in SE (or other legit trauma informed resilience oriented modalities), we might have access to hundreds of variations and techniques, this creates quite the conundrum in healing work. there are many, MANY choice points in a given session. where do we go with the session? what direction would be most efficacious for them? how do i know where to start?

[as an aside, we almost always start with resources, we check in with a felt sense of safety (or lack thereof) and we gradually move toward more stability, awareness and self-regulation. but how do we do that? how do we even know which basic techniques are best for people?]

the beauty of SE is that we don’t have to know the answers to these questions. we can start with a little bodyscan, inviting the client to feel into resources inside (or outside) their bodies. often, if there is a pressing issue, it will show itself in sensation and we can start working with it from there. this is true whether is issue is a conflict with a co-worker or loved one, an emotional issue inside or an old pattern which is creating enough constriction (over time) to create chronic symptoms, etc.

[it should be stated, that if you have chronic symptoms of any type, especially if it involves pain, get it checked out by a medical doctor or appropriate licensed practitioner first. and then if they don’t know how to treat it, then come see someone like me. these idiopathic (unknown causes) symptoms are often psycho-physiologic in origin, meaning there may be some stuck energy or stuck emotions causing it (among other possibilities). once we rule out organic causes, then we can proceed with SE or other modalities knowing it isn’t something more serious underlying the symptoms. and then we can get on with the repair and healing asap!]

however, is there another way to seeing which choice points to go toward initially? yes, that answer can come about through knowing the western astrology birth chart, and then looking at subsequent timing aspects. if we chat with the client a bit about their chart and their history, then we can easily see how their chart reflects their personality, and we can see what obstacles or hindrances they are working with. and we will probably get a general sense of their capacity to handle this process-type work. we can even ask about how much personal growth work they have done on themselves.

once we know these things (a bit about their history, some of the big themes they are working on, and their capacity to do this deeper personal growth work) about a person, then the thousands of choice points in possible SE sessions can be refined down to just a handful of choices that would be best for them. WOW!

just to reiterate this potent fact – we can go from thousands of choice points down to a small number if we know the client’s astrology pretty well! we can see what blind spots they might be struggling with, we can see the double binds and the coupling dynamics start to show themselves pretty quickly.

i love offering this to my clients. a number of people have taken me up on it. i realize this offering is not common – SE is ahead of the curve. and then using psychological astrology plus timing aspects to see how to best apply SE is rare to find indeed.

let me know if you might be interested in doing this type of potent work. i have had success doing this work over long distance as well – it adapts well to zoom sessions! sure, doing bodywork in person is ideal, but somatic experiencing can still have powerful and transformative effects over distance.

i am currently offering a few distance sessions per week. if you live in central virginia and want to come for an in-person session, then use my scheduling software to come to my office:

Thank you for visiting!

Kirby Moore

Tools for a Resilient Tomorrow: a Series of Online Workshops

Hello Dear Ones,

I am excited to announce that I am leading 12 – one-day workshops from November 2021 through May of 2022. The title is Tools for a Resilient Tomorrow, however, once you start the exercises we will go through, then resilience can be accessed right now! If nothing else, we will introduce tools for moving toward well-being.

Space Within – painted by Zune

I am leading 12 days of Trauma-Informed, Resilience-Oriented training. We will cover basic tools and theory around regulating the Autonomic Nervous System (ANS). This 12-day series will be spread over seven months and taught one day at a time.

We will start with basic tools, techniques, and theory, and gradually make our way into more intermediate techniques and ANS / trauma resolution theory. We will also discuss which tools are best for different states of the ANS. There will be ample time for practice and questions and answers.

This series is for anyone who wants to come into deeper embodiment – in their body, as a body. There are many benefits to embodying well-being: we increase our capacity to be with suffering (our own and others’), which in turn increases our compassion, plus we can start to reorganize our nervous system – gradually shifting out of anxiety loops and skillfully reducing trauma symptoms.

This series will be taught in small group format (6 – 10 participants). The format involves more didactic learning rather than doing process-oriented personal work (I will have referrals available for those who want to continue their healing journey). Beginners, bodyworkers, psychotherapists, astrologers, medical practitioners, social justice friends and more are welcome!

When: November 6th, 2021; from 9 am – 12 pm and 2 – 5 pm (the first day)

Where: this is an online workshop, on Zoom

Cost: for one day: $108, for three days: $295, for six days: $495; there are scholarships available for those with demonstrable financial need (with a preference given to BIPOC and people working in the social justice fields)

Contact Kirby to register or with questions: email Kirby

You can also reserve your spot by paying –

Venmo: @Kirby-moore-2 or click below to pay using PayPal:

Trauma Informed, Resilience Oriented Workshops (one day)

This fee covers one day of these upcoming workshops. There will be 12 days total – scroll to the bottom for another payment option. Let me know if you have questions.


You can also visit or for more info. (to be updated soon)

Kirby Moore, spring of 2021

About Kirby: I have been practicing Somatic Bodywork since 2005, with an emphasis on Biodynamic Craniosacral Therapy, Polyvagal Work, Somatic Experiencing and Trauma Informed Astrology. I have a thriving private practice in central Virginia.

Beginning in 2003, I began my personal journey of healing, embodiment and spiritual growth with Reiki, Western Astrology and Tibetan Buddhism. Since then, I have increased my awareness of nervous system repair (tools, theory & techniques), along with learning the ins and outs of Autonomic Nervous System regulation.

This series will incorporate tools and theory from Zapchen Somatics, Somatic Experiencing, Polyvagal Theory, Biodynamic Craniosacral Therapy and more. There will be ample time for questions and answers, along with practice time and small group discussion.

I love looking at the intersections of contemplative practice and nervous system regulation work, along with the overlap of resilience tools and Western Astrology. Hence my creation of Trauma Informed Astrology. If you have interest in any of these fields, I highly recommend you join us.

Future days of the series: Dec 11th, Jan 8th & 22nd (2022), Feb 5th & 19th (2022), there will be 2 days in March, 2 in April and 2 in May of 2022 (to be announced)

3 Days of Resilience-Oriented Workshops

This item covers three out of the 12 days of workshops. Let me know if you have questions.


I will send handouts and further info to all registrants closer to November 6th.

Thank you and do let me know if you have questions or comments!

Completed Somatic Experiencing Training

Hello Dear Readers,

Close to three years ago now, I was deciding whether the SE training was a good direction in which to go. SE is expensive. Unless you get a scholarship (or multiple for that matter), completing the entire training plus supervision / practice / personal session hours costs around $12,000. And that is just the tuition and fees (it wouldn’t count lodging or food or travel)… Obviously, if you want to explore this insightful, beneficial track – apply for scholarships! I actually got reduced rates on two modules due to the financial strain of the pandemic.

So you might see why I was questioning this decision! However, when I sent in my application in Nov of 2018, that same night, I had one of the most amazing dreams of my life. Then, about a month later, when I got accepted and paid for my first module of training, I had another incredible dream.

I have them written down. But suffice it to say, in one of the dreams, I was in another dream (dream within a dream) where I was doing a birth process work session plus SE on a client. And it was amazing! And I woke up feeling like I was definitely on the right path.

And now, three years later, I agree with that assessment! SE is not a miracle treatment. It is not a cure-all. Honestly, SE is best at working with shock trauma (accidents, injuries, falls, etc). With that said though, SE does give many tools which you can also apply to developmental issues.

SE opened so many doors for me, it introduced me to many new tools – and it showed me how to creatively come up with new ways to pendulate the nervous system (pendulation is not technically a verb – it describes the process going back and forth from trauma vortex to healing vortex, or from charge to discharge). And most importantly, SE taught me fundamental skills in identifying and working with various Autonomic Nervous System dysfunctions. Knowing if or where the nervous system is stuck (most trauma symptoms emerge due to stuck energy / stuck emotions or stuck threat responses, etc) is very important first of all. Then knowing which tools and interventions to use is also important. However, identification must come first.

So here I am. Wow! This is quite an accomplishment! I still have about seven hours of supervision time left to accrue. Which I am happy to attend. The case consult sessions are very beneficial for working with a certain issue.

I have had several people ask me, “So you did that, what’s next?” Great question. I have some long term dreams. I have a vision I would love to implement. But one step at a time.

For the moment, I am benefiting people in the Central Virginia region. Along with a few long-distance clients. I see about 15 clients a week – both in person and online. (If most of these are trauma clients, then 15 / week is a lot.) And I am starting to get busy – I am booking about four weeks out. Soon I will need a waitlist! I am most grateful!

I would like to start teaching soon. But we will need to see what happens with the pandemic. I would love to teach in-person! Nothing like online bodywork classes… Or I could wait until the Springtime and have about two months where the weather is perfect for outdoor classes. One right step at a time.

Thank you for your support! And thank you for visiting my blog.

Kirby Moore

Staying Sane In Spite of Everything

Hello Dear Readers,

Much dichotomy and polarization are going around these days. At least here in the U.S. (and judging from the world news, around the globe really). The double binds we find ourselves in – whether simply dealing with a small group of friends and family, or dealing with the school board decisions for our children… they are frankly overwhelming! Of course my nervous system is a wreck!

How can we stay sane and stable in the midst of everything? How can we take our level of activation down from a 7 or 8 (out of 10) down to a 4 or 5?

We need practices which open up spaciousness, which remind us that we are loved. We need to spend time out in nature, or gazing at the vast heavens (whether the vast blue sky during the day or the vast velvety blanket of the night sky).

Of course, time at the beach is one of the best ways to connect to the healing rhythms of nature – some people who are chronically anxious and insomniacs go to the beach and just conk out, sleeping with ease listening to the sounds of the waves. Noticing the connection between vast horizons (space / metal element), vast ocean (water element), the bright sun (fire), sand and dunes (earth) and the gentle breezes (wind / wood element), it is so soothing.

For those of us who don’t live near the ocean, there are still ways to deepen into vast stillness and spaciousness.

First of all, stop the holding-on-for-dear-life. Turn off the news for a few days. Or whatever is causing you angst that is optional. No need to get activated on your ride into work – maybe listen to a humorous podcast or a good book. What about that hobby you have been curious about for the past few years? Now is the time – pick up a paint brush, order some clay (to play with) or take a ceramics class!

Speaking of hobbies… when I get into a good settled place, and I start spending more time in nature, then I tend to start writing poems. Here is a Haiku I wrote this morning, gazing at the mist rising and spiraling off the lake nearby:

Dragon’s Breath Rises

Crisp Morning Sunlit Birdsong

Within Without Change

If there is something which I choose to do, which is ambiguous or which brings me down. Cut it out! We have literally never seen conditions like we are living through now. Mask mandates, huge divisions over who must be vaccinated and how young they can be and all the other political polarization around us. I would recommend being gentle, we can be more kind to ourselves! There are going to be days where we need to stress eat… or binge on Netflix, etc. Be gentle about it 🙂

Start a yoga practice – there are good online classes (I know many teachers who have been on youtube for the past 15 months). And definitely give yourself time to integrate and rest after a good yoga class – at least 5 to 10 minutes! This is where the transformation happens – in the resting down. Or take up a Qigong class or Tai Chi. Or commit to walking 3x / week. Do something that feeds you. And preferably takes you out in nature, under the vast blue sky.

Go see (or do it online) a therapist, a counselor, a mentor, a coach or even a somatic therapist (somatic experiencing is one place to start). We need more support these days. We need some good friends, good company, good contact! We need reminders of our humanity – compassion, nurturance, enjoyment. We need some good news!

Spend time with people who inspire you. Find out if you have any friends who are thriving despite this turbulent time. What is their secret? Maybe they don’t have kids. But they may limit screen time to two hours a day, or they go for a run every other day. Or they have a meditation practice which helps to center them.

I wish you good luck! As always, feel free to reach out to me. I am getting busier in my bodywork practice (in-person), however I usually have one or two long-distance sessions available each week. Even over long distance, I can resonate with clients and I have several who are hundreds of miles away, and a couple who are across vast oceans – and we still do great work!

May we all allow the clear morning sunlight of the natural state to shine through our thoughts, words and deeds!

Thank you for reading!

Kirby Moore

Early Fall Update 2021

Hello Dear Ones,

I had some big transitions the past few months, so I have taken some Me-Time to process and allow things to settle. Hence less posts on here. And I don’t think I am going to be teaching a Trauma-Informed Astrology class this fall. So far, I have 3 people who are “Maybe’s.” And I haven’t done much prep work… so I think it is best to let this one go. Do let me know if you are interested in classes down the road, see below for more on why.

And now I feel that I am moving forward with more ease and grace. I am excited that my bodywork (process-oriented, trauma-resolution, resilience-oriented) practice is thriving. I have people contacting me from over an hour away saying they heard great things about the healing facilitation I offer. Yay! Finally – 17 years of training is paying off! And it is true – the work I offer is very potent. The best of bodywork and somatic processing.

Speaking of the healing facilitation work… I have completed more training with Raja Selvam – this time looking deeper at Pre- and Perinatal Trauma (and working with Existential Trauma in general). So I have even more skills and competencies to offer, and not to mention assessment tools.

This training has been a very interesting journey as well. The more I learn about the physiology of emotions, and how early trauma lands in the body, the more I can correlate with astrology! So I am getting insights in Psychological Astrology, Medical Astrology and more – all while studying how early trauma affects the nervous system!

To clarify – my bodywork practice is thriving. My limit is about 12 – 15 clients / week (and if I am tracking trauma work – this is actually A LOT). And most weeks I get at least 12 clients in. So I practice self-care and spend time in nature, sometimes with friends. But I am really focusing on filling my container so I can stay present and healthy for my clients. I do the rare long-distance Somatic Experiencing session in there too. I love how this work can be done in person or over distance!

And of course, I am still seeing about 3 to 4 astrology clients / month. So that is staying fresh and current. I love unlocking the puzzle that is a new astrology chart. And then if I can combine that with the process work I offer, even better! Then we get quick insights into what clients are working through, what the past year or two has been like, and what the upcoming few months to year will indicate. Wow!

Soon – maybe later in the fall or spring of 2022, I would love to be doing more teaching. I have learned SO much about the nervous system in the past four years. And that on top of the Pre- and Perinatal Psychology training, Craniosacral Therapy and Polyvagal work, this allows me to offer unique and potent tools and techniques. Whether I am teaching bodywork or astrology, I think big things are coming. So I am curious about what this look like, and excited that I love what I do at the moment. Whatever happens, I will try to enjoy it 🙂

Thank you for reading and wishing you a pleasant and graceful end of the Summer,

Kirby Moore

Supervision Group: Trauma Informed Astrology

Hello Dear Ones,

I have had several people email me in the past couple weeks asking about other Trauma Informed Astrology classes. Like when will I offer Birth Process Astrology, or Fundamentals Level 3 (so they can take the advanced classes). I am currently planning to offer a more beginner level (Fundamentals 1.5) course starting in September, but there are not many participants signed up yet. So perhaps I will end up offering something more inclusive. Stay tuned!

Well, one solution is to have a once / month Supervision Group, where astrologers of all levels come together. I will lead a settling exercise and possibly introduce a somatic technique for relaxing the body and moving toward greater resilience. Then participants can ask questions about interesting chart configurations, or about how the nervous system (and those types of challenges) shows up in the Astrology chart. Or participants can present a challenging case – if they have a client who they are really struggling with, I can support that process and make suggestions.

What do you think? I welcome your comments, questions, concerns. Please drop me a comment or email me if you might be interested – kirby [at] mkirbymoore [dot] com

I am looking at the first Sundays of each month for this. So that would start October 3rd, November 7th, etc. This could be an on-going group – and once participants complete 6 groups, then we can discuss (on an individual basis) whether or not they are ready for more advanced offerings.

I would ask a $45 suggested donation, but it would be pay-what-you-can if you are not able to do $45. Each Supervision Group would last 3 hours – with a break in the middle.

Hope to hear from you!

Kirby Moore

Possible Class on Working with Trauma (and the Astrology Chart)

Dear Readers and Astrologers and Life-long Learners and future traumatologists,

As usual, if you want to schedule a treatment or astrology interpretation, you can go to my sites: or You can also go to the T.I. Astrology site to sign up for classes. This material is copyrighted by me, M. Kirby Moore. Reproduction without permission is prohibited. Thank you for honoring my intellectual property!

I am pondering offering a class on Working with Trauma (in the Astrology chart). And I am wondering who would be interested in taking it – please let me know!

Do you work with clients (of any sort)? Are you an astrologer who is wondering how to benefit your clients who have early trauma? What about birth trauma and heavy developmental challenges? These are vital questions! And unfortunately there is not (yet) much overlap between trauma resolution and astrology consultation work.

One thought that keeps repeating (meaning I should pay attention), is to lead a Tools for a Resilient Now: Simples Exercises and Tools for Astrologers.

This would be a class that focuses more on the Autonomic Nervous system, along with teaching tools / techniques to guide clients to a more settled and resilient place. Because of its heavy focus on non-astrological topics, I would open it up to several levels of astrologers / participants. As in beginners would benefit from the majority of the material, and then if professional astrologers want to take the class, they could ask more advanced questions and we could have a brief discussion there. So complete beginners would benefit and seasoned professionals would also learn a lot. Beginners would need to understand that they will be stretched occasionally in the class.

In a typical class, we would do two or three gentle somatic exercises or techniques, there would be time for breakout groups – you get to practice amongst yourselves with an assistant. Then we come back and share and discuss questions. And there would be time for an autonomic nervous system discussion – theories and where specifically to apply certain techniques and interventions. Then if there is time, discuss astrology specific questions related to trauma.

Is this something you would be interested in? Please let me know, if I get enough interest, I would offer it in late September or early October.

For people who want to have more tools for working with clients who have trauma, this would be a great place to start. And then if there is enough interest, (and enough participants), then I could offer a more Pre- and Perinatal Astrology oriented class.

Look forward to hearing from you!

Thank you for visiting / reading,

Kirby Moore

Boundaries in relationships (basics)

Hello Dear Ones,

I wrote this piece below for a friend. And then I realized that, wow, it is possible many people need to be reminded of this! Especially with the short-lived Astrological T-Square happening in the sky (Transiting Saturn square Uranus opposite Sun / Mercury).

First of all, be RESOLUTE. If you decide something about a person (an ex perhaps), like if they or simply hanging out with them causes you harm, set a boundary ahead of time and stick to it. Ideally you want to only spend time with people who feed you, people who are supportive and people who wish you well (this can be a high ideal – but mutual well-wishing is an awesome thing!).

Lack of boundaries affects many facets of our lives – remember the liver has to do with mental clarity and ability to make healthy decisions (according to Chinese medicine). If we have porous boundaries, then the liver may get a bit overloaded leading to possible health issues as the immune system gets depleted. This can create a negative feedback loop – the more my boundaries are flaky, the more confusion and mental fog could potentially set in, leading to poor decision making, leading to questionable boundaries. Ideally, we want to start with ourselves – take care of me first. If I don’t have time for that, how could I possibly have time for hanging out with ambiguous “friends” at a winery? Start with yourself! Then you can know how much you have to give out to others. And you can do so in a sustainable manner.

Boundaries are literally what the immune system is all about – what is me VS what is foreign? This is what the different types of white blood cells are doing – marking pathogens, consuming them, eliminating them. Skin as boundary, skin as container. Can I slow down just a little bit more to actually feel my skin? What would that be like? If we have poor boundaries, then the immune system surely suffers.

Keep in mind that boundaries are the ability to say NO. Only when we can be in touch with our authentic “NO” that we start to get in touch with our authentic “YES!” Without being clear about saying NO, we will never be able to fully embody a YES. Boundaries are healthy (primary) anger. If someone violates my boundaries, I should get upset. That is healthy primary anger. It is only when this anger gets suppressed / repressed / swallowed that it turns into secondary anger and turns side-ways – becomes distorted anger. And this looks like many things including suppressed resentment (explosions down the road over something very petty) or passive-aggressiveness etc.

You might feel stretched thin right now (for the next day or two) by a passing T-Square in the sky. Take it easy, do some self-care, but rest if / when you need to! Maybe find some water – either lay down next to a mountain stream, swim in a lake / river, hang out near a body of water etc. Or simply an epsom salt bath might be what you need?

Thanks for reading!

Kirby Moore

Further into Tr. Neptune conjunct Na. Sun (Western Astrology) Part 2

Hello Dear Readers,

Here we are again, this time adding to the previous post (scroll up or click here: Go back and read that if you have not done so yet.

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Let me know if you want to sign up or want further info on my upcoming class: Trauma Informed Astrology Fundamentals 1.5 – you can visit the Trauma Informed Astrology site above or click here: Classes.

Now we will go deeper into this one aspect. That would be Transiting (Tr.) Neptune conjunct the Natal (Na.) Birth Chart Sun. I love this about astrology. You can go further down the rabbit hole, multiple layers – there are psychological facets, health facets, karmic facets, emotional (psycho-spiritual) facets, social / relational facets, etc!

To recap the first post: basically Neptune will bring with it creativity, colorful imaginative elements, along with a tendency to check out – anywhere from random day-dreaming all the way to full blown escapism through serious substance abuse or binging on TV shows, movies or even sex addiction. If we have a tendency to avoid or resist facing reality, this transit (aspect) will amplify that! It could be that certain emotions were too strong, too much, too big – too overwhelming and we learned that checking out was a safe compensation pattern. In addition, if the client has a proclivity toward spiritual practice (which could look like many things), then they will probably be more visionary, more creative, more mystical and certainly more intuitive under this transit.

When this transit gets going, on one level, there can easily be an ego wipeout. Whenever Neptune (tr) makes a hard aspect to an angle, the Sun or Moon, there will be some confusion / fog / delusion somewhere in our psyche. Look to the house that the Sun rules to see what will feel veiled or blurry. The house that the Sun tenants may also feel unclear. Neptune, the ruler of the seas, will inundate a part of us with fluidity – we might feel flooded, we might feel like we literally can’t clear the mental fog (different than brain fog) for days or weeks. And our confidence and sense of direction can feel wiped out.

This aspect lasts for close to 2 – 3 years (there will be about a six – twelve month strengthening as Neptune approaches the Sun, then there will be a retrograde period in there, the aspect is very close to exact for about nine – twelve months, and then there will be about a nine month fading as Neptune eventually moves past the Sun). The more sensitive we are to Neptune in our Natal chart, the more we will feel this aspect “further out.” Look to Neptune’s placement and aspects in the Natal chart to see how implicated it is in the client’s basic personality.

There is a chance there will be some form of disillusionment under this aspect. But this really depends on where the client is in their growth / maturation process. If they are younger (in their teens or 20’s) and they have Neptune square Venus or the Sun or the Moon in their Natal chart, then they might have rose-colored glasses on for a full decade or more. You could decide whether or not it is worth bursting their bubble. Or can you skillfully get them to see how they could be more realistic, more discerning, etc. If they have Neptune in Natal hard aspects to their personal planets, then they will probably tend toward idealism. Skillfully point this out to them and it will help – better to land softer on solid ground than to have life whack us a good one.

Personally, in my chart, as a Leo Rising, this aspect plays a bigger role. (The first house, a.k.a. the Ascendant, is an angular house and it heavily influences our personality / identity). Plus the Ascendant plays a role in relationships – and sure enough, I am not entirely clear about a significant relationship in my life (more on this below). It is almost as if Neptune is crossing my Sun and Ascendant here (double whammy). However, due to my having done at least 16 years of personal growth work, including A LOT of embodiment type process work, I am not feeling the wipeout or the confusion as much. But I was feeling a significant need to get free of a romantic relationship, to have more space, more freedom, more time for spiritual practice. And Neptune conjunct my Sun made it so I was feeling these needs pretty clearly, but having a difficult time being clear about expressing them. So it took two or three months for my ex-partner and I to see that separation might be for the best.

It was a very healthy relationship in a lot of ways. So that is what is hardest of all. A part of me is still holding onto the best of the relationship. It was the healthiest relationship I have been in up to this point. So there will need to be a few months of grieving, processing and letting go. Being with the nitty gritty emotions, which is hard for a Neptunian. Speaking of which…

If there is a Piscean, Neptunian or 12th house focus in your client’s chart, it is quite possible that they have significant unresolved (repressed, suppressed, or ancestral) big grief in their history. One of the reasons we check out or dissociate early on is because it does not feel safe to be with the grief (for whatever reason). Maybe my ancestors never allowed themselves to slow down and grieve the loss of a family member, or the loss of a baby – remember, life was a lot harder 100 years ago and more. There was a strong “get over it” mentality. Most mothers back then did not have the leisure to slow down for the 6 – 12 months it might take to fully grieve the loss of a stillborn baby (or even a miscarriage). Unfortunately this continues to this day… if a family desperately wants a child, they don’t realize how painful it is to process a miscarriage. And they too will just “buck up” or “grin and bear it.” Sad stuff ;-(

Far better to be with what is. By the way, this is a good remedy for this aspect. Taking time to be with what is. Cognitively being with it. Being with our emotions, our heart. Being seen, being witnessed grieving or processing the emotions can be important too.

And when Neptune is conjunct the Sun, the client might need to grieve. Can you point them in the direction of a good therapist, or Somatic Experiencing practitioner, or mentor or support group? Maybe there are some good men’s groups in your area? Women’s groups? Maybe you want to start a support group for a specific type of loss?

But keep in mind, that in order to grieve, we have to be willing to slow down and allow ourselves to be more vulnerable. For many people, this feels very unsafe. Recall that we are probably coming from a “rat-race culture.” At least if you live here in the United States. So slowing down is equated with laziness, with wasting time. And yet it is so vital. We have to take a bigger picture view and see the double binds around “I am my functional worth” – in other words, the money I bring to my organization is my value. Nope – sorry buddy, sorry honey, this ain’t true. We need to sit with “I love you for who you are, not for what you do.” We have innate value and self-worth as a natural right. We have a right to feel our feelings, we have a right be safe, we have a right to say “No.” And this realization takes time.

Maybe spending more time outdoors will help us to slow down. Lay down next to a mountain creek if you have that option. Or spend time at a beach or a large lake or near a river. Drink in the natural rhythms! Maybe getting into a restorative yoga (yin yoga) class would help us slow down. Or doing Tai Chi or Qigong. Or join a meditation group.

How can I remember what is sacred? How can I nurture the sacred temple of my heart? How can I bring more aliveness to my body, my breath, my awareness?

Remember we want more ground, less effort. More being, less doing. Then we can start to gain the insights Neptune is ready to offer us, especially under this potent aspect!

Thanks for reading!

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Kirby Moore

Going In-depth with Astrological Transits: Neptune conjunct Sun

Hello dear readers,

I am going through some challenging transits right now. Maybe not as challenging as some people (this whole Saturn square Uranus aspect in the sky is creating havoc in some people’s lives). Wishing you all well as we navigate this summer of recalibration.

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In this post, I will show how many layers and levels we can go into when we unpack a single aspect between the Transit (timing) chart and the Natal Birth chart. And the first aspect we will unpack is Transiting Neptune conjunct the natal chart Sun.

Neptune conjoins Natal Sun – Transiting (Tr.) Neptune goes around the Sun in about 165 Earth years. This means that unless we will live to be 164 years old, there is no guarantee that Tr. Neptune will even make a conjunction to your Natal Birth chart Sun. So for those of us who do experience this… I am writing this in-depth post. Plus I plan to go deeper in future posts.

According to Julia and Derek Parker (astrologers and authors), with Tr. Neptune conjunct the Sun (to paraphrase), “first we need to bear in mind how Neptune is aspected in the birth chart.” This is very good advice. I would also add to this – look at Neptune’s sign and house placements. And look at the Sun’s aspects as well. Obviously, if transiting Neptune is in Pisces in the 8th house and it is conjunct the Sun, then the Sun is in Pisces too, and most likely also in the 8th house.

The Parkers go on (more paraphrasing) to point out that the client might “lose touch with reality” during this transit. I agree with this – especially highlighting the “might.” When we take into account the rest of the chart, and we take into account the frequency of the individual who has this aspect occurring, then we will get a better sense of the client’s experience. Also keep in mind that astrology is a science of prediction, we can predict how Neptune will probably affect the client, but we don’t know for certain (frequency-based, choice-centered astrology is not fortune telling). There are some things to point out to the client though, as most people who go through this aspect will encounter certain influences (see below).

For instance, in a chart where there is a heavy emphasis on Saturn, there will probably be a strong sense of duty, responsibility, discipline and the individual might be very organized and structured. It is also possible that they are more on the stern side and possibly pessimistic. Neptune will add a bit of nebulousness and imagination to the personality off and on for the two years it aspects the Sun. But if the person is very realistic and goal-oriented, very focused on the task at hand, with Saturn ruling things, they may not notice these effects very often throughout that time. See below for more! However, the Sun is a significant influence in the astrology chart, and Neptune will only conjunct the Sun once in a lifetime (if that!), so most likely this aspect will not pass without their noticing significant shifts and changes in their normal clear rationality and precision.

Neptune will add color, greater imagination, a tendency to day-dream or check out in other ways, and possibly even escape from facing reality through substances or other addictive behaviors – sex addiction, binge-watching TV shows / movies, etc. There may be loss of clarity or added confusion about one or two areas of life – which areas? Look at the Sun’s placement and see which house it rules. That area of life will be blanketed by fog during this transit – at least initially. In addition, once we get through a few months (3 – 12 months) of this aspect, then we might get the benefit of increased creativity as Neptune’s visionary, mystical, colorful traits are accessed (if the client has this capacity).

Side note: There is a reason that most (all?) astrology print out reports fail to grasp the entirety of a client’s being and process. Why is that? Because a computer cannot practice frequency-based, choice-centered astrology. Maybe down the road, there will be a very complex astrology program that asks 100 questions and actually ascertains the clients frequency (awareness, experience, wisdom, connection to their inherent health, etc) in different areas of their lives, and then prints a report based on those varying frequencies… but I have yet to see one!

Back to the Aspect at hand (Tr. Nep conjunct Natal Sun): Likewise, we can’t merely see Tr. Neptune conjoins the Natal Sun and make all sorts of assumptions. Yes, it is highly likely they will have a year where something feels nebulous, confused or veiled in fog or fuzziness. If they have a spiritual-leaning lifestyle (they do regular daily yoga and / or chi-cultivation and / or meditation and / or communing with nature, etc), then they will probably benefit highly in some areas as well– they may literally have clearer visions and dreams, whether on their meditation cushions, while they are doing Qigong or yoga or in the woods (you get the point).

One question to look at, is how embodied are they? Has the client done significant personal growth work, to come down out of the head and into the body? Do they have significant unresolved big emotions – resentment, jealousy, hatred, terror, big grief, etc? If the answer to that last question is yes, they probably don’t know it. So this is something you must glean and keep to yourself until they are ready to hear about it. If they have clamped down in their bodies – whether with migraine headaches, stiff necks or shoulders, or chronic shallow breathing, etc – in order to protect against these huge overwhelming emotions, then when Tr. Neptune conjoins their Sun, there is a very good chance they will continue to check out in numerous ways. If they had one bottle of wine per week, during this transit, that might become two or three bottles. Three joints a week might become six, etc.

Does the client have a tendency to deal with life through idealization? Do they see potential partners through rose-colored glasses? Is the glass always half-full for them (if Jupiter is also conjunct their natal Sun in the birth chart, or conjunct the Ascendant or making a close trine to the Sun, etc, then this is likely)? If any of these answers is “Yes,” then Neptune will amplify this tendency, at least through some of this time.

Events will seem to have more meaning. I just saw my first white egret on the lake behind my house. Does this mean I should look up its animal-medicine meaning and make huge decisions based on what it signifies? Of course not! But if I were less evolved and more airy-fairy, then I might consider doing just that – especially under Neptune’s influence.

And some events will seem more marvelous, more enjoyable (provided there are not other really difficult transits or solar arc aspects happening simultaneously). But we should not make decisions with rose-colored glasses over our eyes (and minds). We need a healthy dose of realism when this aspect is in force. Get that second (or third) opinion when Neptune conjoins the Sun. Make sure you are not using signs and symbols to make massive decisions – at least not without running it by someone who is clear-headed and grounded first!

How can we have more discernment and common sense (two of Virgo’s key words – remember the remedy for most astrological maladies is often nearby in the chart). When we are exhilarated or extremely happy, we can make decisions we might regret down the road. Make certain both of your feet are planted on solid ground while this aspect is going on. Or at least have a grounded friend you trust (or multiple friends) go over those big decisions with you first!

Like I mention above, the remedy for too much Dionysus in our lives (Neptune transits to the Sun, Moon or angles probably indicate this), lies in Pisces’ opposite sign. Virgo is all about discernment, being practical, having a crystal clear mind, going over the small details, etc. We want to be careful if we are assuming everything is going to work out well (one Neptune “symptom”). We have to get that second opinion – whether from a professional or a trusted friend.

If you have Tr. Neptune currently conjunct your Natal Sun, reach out for more support. From friends who are trusted, who feel supportive, who are grounded, who are practical, who are following common sense. You can also contact me to go through your Astrology chart or to do a long-distance Somatic Experiencing session. You can reach me (email) at kirby [at] mkirbymoore [dot] com.

Also feel free to leave a comment here. I always appreciate hearing from readers!

May we all find a healthy balance between elation and discernment, between order and chaos and between wisdom and compassion!

Thanks for reading,

Kirby Moore