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Where were we?  Yes, we were discussing the ramifications of Saturn in the 12th house.  This is a very important time for you Scorpio Risings!  Saturn only crosses the Ascendant once every 29 years.  Therefore we should take advantage of this transit if at all possible.  But don’t worry, generally life will do this for us.  If you feel you need some guidance, then of course go out and get some counseling or coaching as it would be good to know what you want and why and be as clear as possible about it.

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Once Saturn crosses the Ascendant, several things happen.  Saturn is near the Ascendant, which depending on its retrograde cycle, for as many as twelve weeks or as little as five weeks.  At the moment, Saturn will push forward through early Scorpio until it arrives at 11 degrees, when it stations and turns retrograde.  If you want to understand the retrograde cycle better, see previous posts about the subject in the Spiritual Astrology category.

Initially, the body / mind system is having a difficult time integrating all the changes that have been happening for the past two years (when Saturn was in the 12th house).  That means it will ask for a break.  When Saturn is directly conjunct the Ascendant, you will want to schedule some down time if at all possible.  If you do not do this, then the conventional wisdom around this aspect is that you may get “sick.”  Of course, if we have children to raise, a busy 60 hour a week job, or other major responsibilities, then it will be difficult to get the necessary time off to integrate everything that is happening.  This is why it is good to get an astrology interpretation done at least once every two years, because then you will know about these Timing events well ahead of time! (As it happens, Saturn conjunct the Ascendant typically indicates that you will be busy, whether building a business, climbing the corporate ladder or caring for your family. Try to find some balance in your energy expression.)

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Where was I?  Oh yes, we can get “sick” under this transit.  Why?  Because Saturn, even at the highest frequencies, has to do with contraction and setting boundaries.  We have just turned a new leaf and we are starting a new cycle here, but we do not fully understand how this will affect our body.  Therefore there can be a little “request” made by the body to slow down.  Certainly (and see a licensed health care provider before implementing this advice) Vitamin C will help, as Vit C is under Saturn’s domain.

Then, once Saturn is clear of the Ascendant, we will be ready to stride boldly forward.  We will want to work hard to try to implement our new project / plan / idea.  Whether we are going through school, starting a new business, or other new endeavor, once Saturn is 5 degrees clear of the Ascendant, we will want to have a serious work ethic.  Except, and here is the catch, we won’t know exactly what we are striving for!  This is the nature of the first house.  We find ourselves on a new island, in a new environment internally, but where are ultimately heading?  What will this project morph into?  We don’t know yet.  This may not become completely clear until later, when Saturn crosses into the 4th house.

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On a health level (Medical Astrology), Scorpio is associated with the reproductive organs and with the colon.  If you have a family history of issues with these organs, then under this Saturn in Scorpio transit, it would be good to get regular check ups and get any concerns resolved.  But this is where it would be good to see a competent astrologer too.  If you have Neptune in Scorpio (in the 1st house) or if you have Neptune in the 6th house, then it might be difficult to diagnose your health issues.  So a competent astrologer will be able to look at your whole chart to see if there is a legitimate concern which should be looked into further.  If we have Mars in Scorpio, Mars square Venus, Pluto in Scorpio, Pluto in hard aspect to Saturn or Mars, or a plethora of Scorpio / 8th house planets, then we should be cognizant of reproductive / elimination organs and potential health issues.

Provided there are not many other challenging transits occurring while Saturn crosses the Ascendant, if you do get sick, it will probably just be a cold or flu, which will pass when Saturn clears the Ascendant (if not sooner).  While Saturn is within three degrees of either side of the Asc, do not expect to have high energy levels.  Eat well, get plenty of rest, drink lots of delicious clean water and keep your kidneys warm!  In other words, practice good self care and you will be fine.  See previous posts to see more about Self Care topics.

If we have Jupiter or Progressed Venus making positive aspects during Saturn’s transit of Scorpio, then it will be much easier and you will have a “guardian angel” of sorts.  Especially Jupiter making positive aspects to the Sun – then our energy and vitality will stay higher, no matter what Saturn is doing during that time.  The strength of Jupiter versus the strength of Saturn in your chart will help to determine which planet has more “effect” in your chart.

Hopefully I covered everything I said I was going to.  Actually, entire books have been written on Saturn, and on Pluto (Scorpio’s ruler), so I could easily go further.  But I don’t want to spoil your fun!  🙂    I briefly touched on psychological ramifications of Saturn in Scorpio, Scorpio Rising, and I also mentioned a bit about Medical Astrology (always see a licensed health care practitioner in addition to working with Astrologers).  Plus I touched on what Saturn in the 12th and 1st houses mean, at least on one level.

So in case you have not been bopped on the head enough with this concept, it is very beneficial to get your chart done by a competent astrologer.  Preferably someone who has some knowledge of both psychological and health areas of this vast subject.  That way you will know what else is occurring while Saturn cruises through Scorpio, and you will know what combinations to expect and when to expect them.

Thanks for reading.

 

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This post is a part of a series on Saturn.  You can find more posts about Saturn in the Spiritual Astrology category of this blog.

This post will primarily be for you Scorpio Risings out there.  But keep in mind, that most of you who have Scorpio Rising (Ascendant), will have Saturn in your 12th house right now, so part of this post will be for that area.  Also, I wrote two more extensive posts previously about Saturn in the 12th.  Glance back through the Spiritual Astrology category to see more about that.  Because the Rising sign plays such an important role in determining who we are (it is what we wear, appearance; it has to do with our inherited health, inherited geneology, genetic health; it has to do with what we are growing into as we mature; and the Rising sign is what we share with people who we know and trust), I am also going to suggest that this post will have a little bit of extra significance for those with their Sun in Scorpio.

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As a little tangent, which you may or may not be tired of hearing about by now  :-), astrology is a very complex subject.  If you know your chart well, you are in the minority of the Western population.  Unfortunately the mainstream media has done a solid job of squelching authentic astrology, or by simply posting the vague horoscopes (no disrespect here), it gives astrology a hollow vapid reputation.  So if you do not know what your Rising Sign is, it is definitely worth looking into.  I can do your Spiritual Astrology interpretation if you would like (see my website or the Astrology page here).

Back to our subject at hand.  It is my intention to superficially touch on what Saturn in Scorpio means to those with Scorpio Rising.  This is because without knowing the rest of your chart, this description may be very accurate, or just moderately close.  And, I intend to mention a little about psychological aspects, health aspects and potential events.

Because we are dealing with Scorpio (and Pluto by association), I am going to just tell it like it is.  Sorry if this blows anyone’s mind.  But I think Scorpio prefers it this way.

What does Scorpio Rising mean in general?  According to Isabel Hickey, Scorpio is one of the more difficult Ascendants, because you have a lot of bound up power.  Scorpio is ruled by Pluto, which is a very subconscious and even unconscious energy.  It requires work and effort to unwind and unearth our gems of psychological insight and self-awareness with Scorpio on the 1st house.  Plus Hickey mentions that there are basically two types of Scorpios (Rising) – the Saint or the Devil.  You choose what you do with your power, and there is very little gray in this case.  I usually do not like to dwell in such black and white terms, but I think she has a point.  Here is why: just about all Scorpio Rising people go through a significant trial or challenge.  It usually involves being wounded or traumatized early, whether sexually, emotionally or psychologically (or it could simply mean a very significant birth trauma which takes years to unpack). Generally speaking, I think most massive tests of Scorpio Rising people happen before they are eight years old (the developmental years), however, I have also known some Scorpio Rising people to come out of substance abuse with a lot of strength and resolve. So the biggest test is probably behind you, but if you are living your life in reaction or like a pinball, just bouncing from encounter to encounter without a lot of consciousness around your motivation, choices or intentions, then maybe you have a big test in front of you as well.

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So the real question is what do you do with your heart after that wounding.  It is really very easy to become “me first” oriented, to close up and become manipulative, to become like the people who wounded you.  It is also relatively easy, and maybe even fun for a while, to become a victim – “poor me,” “my wounding was worse than yours,” etc etc.  And it can take some time to sift through our psychological layers.  I think it is the rare Scorpio Rising, who has dealt with a significant wound, and always maintained a kind heart.  This is just difficult to do.  The ego does not want to be kind after something like that.  This is why it is Saint or Devil – because there is so much power bound up in Scorpio.  This sign has the potential to purify a ton of negative karma in this lifetime (which is quite a blessing) and the theory is that if the soul was not strong enough, it would not have chosen this sign on the Ascendant!  Hopefully by the time they are 40 or 50, most Scorpio Risings have done some big healing work and are moving toward saintly behavior, dissolving the manipulative, devious wounds through deeper understanding and acceptance.  It is important to bring illumination to your shadow material with this sign Rising.  And in my work with healing facilitation, we must feel it to heal it, meaning we can definitely shift our body on a deep cellular level, but we need someone who has been there and done that (and who we trust and who knows what they are doing). To reiterate, to do most resilience-building healing work, we have to work with a qualified professional, someone we trust, who has appropriate training, etc.

Let’s lighten the conversation as that was pretty heavy stuff.  🙂  But I think it is shadow material that some people need to hear.  But now I will discuss Saturn in the 12th, moving toward the 1st house.

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Saturn in the 12th House speaks of an old cycle resolving, completing, which means the inevitable beginning of a new direction.  Whenever any planet crosses the Ascendant, there is a fresh start, the beginning of a new cycle, a re-birth as it were.  And of all the planets transiting the Ascendant, Saturn makes for a serious fresh start.  Only Uranus and the Progressed Moon play an equal or more significant role when it comes to crossing the Ascendant (and of course Pluto and Neptune are strong in this regard, but not everyone gets to experience these transits in their lifetime).  When Saturn is in our 12th house, we might make some decisions which are very strange to our friends and family.  This is because we feel something intuitively – something has got to go, and it may come as a shock to some of our close ones.  But generally that which we release with Saturn in the 12th is usually beneficial in the long run.  Of course it is important to have a mentor, someone you trust to bounce ideas off of, because the 12th house can also be the area of life where we work against ourselves – occasionally we can be our own worst enemy! (Especially if you have Saturn in your 12th house in your Natal Chart.)  So if you are feeling really confused about what direction to head in life, especially with Saturn in your 12th house, then it would be wise to get some coaching or mentoring or counseling.  Make certain you are as clear as possible (keeping in mind that much of this house happens unconsciously!).

Continued in the next post.  Thanks for reading.

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This post is more of an introduction to Saturn in Spiritual Astrology, more to follow on Saturn specifically in Scorpio.

Recently, a reader submitted a comment asking me to elaborate on Saturn’s entrance into Pluto’s domain.  She mentioned that she had some planets in Scorpio, so she may have a bit more than mere curiosity riding on it.  However, in order to be specific in answering her question, I need to know more.  This is because Western Astrology is a complex subject, especially if it is practiced appropriately – keeping the language open ended (choice centered, frequency based) and staying away from fortune-telling-esque fatalistic predictions.  And when dealing with Saturn, unfortunately it is easy to revert to older Astrological-recipe-cookbooks and talk about the delays and restrictions which Saturn can impose.

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But does Saturn have to be the stern disciplinarian?  How much of the ancient, “Saturn is the edge of the solar system, therefore it guarantees a cold, distant, restrictive influence in the chart” attitude is still necessary today?

If you have read my previous posts in the Spiritual Astrology category, you will notice that I am actually a huge fan of Saturn.  Even Saturn in Scorpio, even conjunct some “difficult” planets, I love Saturn and the structure and responsibility it indicates.  Why is this?  Because Saturn, in addition to being associated with a dry, cold, distant, contracting energy, has to do with growth, maturity and taking responsibility.  It is the Buddhist’s planet (aside from Chiron, but there is a strong association between these two, which is a tale for another day.  Sorry I digress.).  That is, if you want to work on yourself spiritually, then you have to have many ducks in a row with regard to personal responsibility – we need to be fiscally responsible, we need to be practical in our outlook, we need to be emotionally responsible and we need to admit when we have made a mistake and act to clean up our inner and outer environs.  Let me unpack these statements.

In Buddhism, the theory is that no Divine Deity can save us.  The Buddha said that we must work at our own salvation.  We all possess Buddhanature, a pure seed of clear-light-mind.  But for the majority of people on this planet, this seed is grossly obscured by deeply ingrained patterns and umpteen bad habits.  Therefore we must work to get to know ourselves better and to take responsibility for cleaning up our inner psyche – resolving misunderstandings, dissolving misconceptions and coming into a comfortable, embodied alignment.  It is then that we have a chance to move forward on a spiritual path.  But if we have a mindset that constantly yearns for an easy solution (Jupiter or Leo or Aries), or if we believe exclusively in magical “it-will-all-work-out-in-the-end” solutions (is there a difference between these two?) (I’m talking to you Neptune and Pisces), then we might be groping around in the dark for a long time.  What I am trying to say is that we can change our karma, but it takes some effort.  And this effort is Saturn’s domain.

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[I am getting on my soapbox for this paragraph.]  When we seek an easy solution, a more Jovial or Neptunian resolution filled with ease and as little work as possible, then Saturn will reflect a challenge, a test or a limitation.  And then, quite unfortunately, Saturn gets that bad name.  We will say, “Yeah, I was doing so well, things were flowing and I was so happy; and then Saturn came along and slowed everything down, I got sick, and everything got to be so much harder.”  Really?  With a little disclaimer (see the end of this article below) I would argue that if this is your answer to Saturn’s call to responsibility, then you were procrastinating a bit much when things were easy, when your positive karma was manifesting, you were sitting back and soaking it all in, expecting that it would never cease.  But end it always does.  Impermanence is Saturn’s worst fear, and its greatest ally.  Everything changes.  So we should keep working on ourselves even when it disrupts our idyllic vacation from discomfort.  Then, during Saturn’s transits, we can be rewarded for self-reflection and the “it hurts so good” cathartic personal growth work.

Don’t get me wrong though.  Timing is everything.  If we work with divination tools like the I Ching, we swiftly notice that there are times when the tide is coming in and times when it is receding, times when we must slow our roll and times when it is ideal to exert a lot of effort.  There are times when we need to rest and recover.  And there are times when hard work is easier, necessary even, and when it pays great dividends.  And the payoff can be great.  But we have to know when the tide crests and when the receding water reveals previously unknown treasures.  This is where knowing the Transits and Progressions of Timing Astrology comes in handy.  Because many people worry about meeting ends, getting bills paid, which is necessary of course, but it would be best to save while we have abundance, so we are prepared (a Saturnian word) for tough times.

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Astrology is a complex subject.  To fully answer a question like, “I have several planets in Scorpio in my sixth and seventh houses, and here comes Saturn, what does this mean?”  One must know what frequency is the individual at?  Are they the type of person who respects the wisdom of taking responsibility for their lives?  Or are they the type who frets about Saturn and chooses to curl up in a ball, waiting out the storm?  (Which might be smart at times!)  What do they do when they encounter stagnation?  Because the results of spiritual practice are only revealed when we encounter difficult situations.

Then, knowing the frequency of the individual (do they have a meditation practice?  Do they have a living lineage of healing wisdom that they connect with on a daily or weekly basis?  Do they receive bodywork / energy work?  What are their goals and objectives in this lifetime?  Are they more stubborn or more open in general?), we can start to apply Spiritual Astrology to meet them where they are.  But even knowing someone’s frequency, we still need to know the rest of their chart.  Because Saturn’s entrance into Scorpio will be much different for someone with a Sun or Moon or Rising Sign in Scorpio than for someone with more outer planets in Pluto’s domain.

Either way though, having multiple planets in Scorpio, it would probably be good to continue reading future posts on this subject.  Because Scorpio is the most powerful of all the signs (Leo and Aquarius might disagree, but ultimately, Scorpio is Pluto’s domain, and the god of the Underworld has sway over the lowest venomous energies and the highest wisdom of healing in its Minerva aspect), it is good to generate understanding about the subconscious world.  It is good to know what Scorpio is about and it is good to know about Saturn.  Then we can be prepared for whatever karma we may have unfolding, positive or challenging.

Therefore I will just touch the surface of this subject, because we are all approaching astrology where we are, and I cannot write a single article which will deeply touch many numerous individuals’ subjective experiences.  But I will brush the surface of Saturn’s entrance into Scorpio pertaining to the houses of the horoscope.

Look for this in an upcoming post soon.  Thank you for reading.

As for that disclaimer from above, occasionally, Saturn’s influence in a chart will indicate karma which we do not have a choice about.  If this is the case, and I will provide examples here in a second, then my statement above does not hold water.  For instance, if Saturn is doing some funky aspects in the Natal chart with Mercury, Jupiter and / or Uranus (3rd or 12th houses) and it has manifested in a learning disability, then you have to work with what you have.  Do not push where pushing will cause obvious harm!  We must know ourselves and work within our limits (which is also Saturnian wisdom).

Similarly if we are born with highly functional Down’s Syndrome, there will be different talents and abilities from someone else.  So start where you are and only challenge yourself appropriately.  Do not take my words as gospel, rather see if they work for you.  If not, then please discard them  🙂

[Updated Nov 2017: I would highly recommend reading the book “Gut and Psychology Syndrome” a book by a British doctor and nutrition expert who looks at all the manifestations that an unhealthy bio-flora can cause, including ADD, ADHD, schizophrenia, depression and other mental health issues plus an unhealthy gut can lead to serious auto-immune problems! Wild stuff – and it can all possible change just by changing our diets!]

Thanks for reading,

km

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