Medical Astrology*: Saturn in the 2nd house, Mars in the 8th cont’d (2011)

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Please recall, that as I delve into the deeper health aspects, I cannot stress enough, that this information is purely for educational or entertainment purposes and that all individuals should consult with a licensed medical practitioner before making any changes to their diet, lifestyle or medicine intake. The author does not claim to treat, cure, diagnose or prevent any disease or illness.

Are you still with me? Excellent! If you are starting here, then I would suggest going back to the post entitled, “Medical Astrology 2011,” and read up from there. This is the fifth post in this series so go back and get context to grok this stuff!

I’m going to skip the review portion of this post, to allow for more fresh material, so I hope you are ready for a deeper plunge. Here we have Saturn in the 2nd house and Mars in the 8th, which as I mentioned previously can be associated with Taurus and Scorpio respectively.

So what does Saturn in Taurus bring us? See the previous post to see how the 2nd house and Taurus are correlated and that is how we got from Saturn in Virgo in the 2nd house to looking at Saturn in Taurus. And what does this mean from a health perspective? We need to keep in mind that there are subtle differences between interpreting Saturn in the 2nd and Saturn in Taurus, but again, for the sake of brevity, we are just diving into Saturn in Taurus from the health perspective: this can bring extra congestion in the throat (sore throats which I believe actually derive from a congested colon – there is a reciprocal relationship between opposite signs and here Taurus, throat, reflects Scorpio and its association with the colon), other throat or voice issues and hypothyroidism. So just to be clear, I believe that if we suffer from sore throats, it is a good idea to check the colon – are we constipated? Have we ingested many congestion-producing foods? Are we expressing ourselves or are we emotionally constipated? Etc.

Alright, and now for Mars in Scorpio. And again, just to be clear, this is the over-simplified version of Mars in the 8th house. In actuality, there are differences between Mars in the 8th and Mars in Scorpio, but for brevity’s sake, we are sticking with this: Mars in Scorpio can indicate any issues (inflammation, overexertion, or dysfunction) of any of the reproductive organs and glands, both male and female, it can indicate colon problems, it might represent a weakness for venereal diseases, it can indicate in rare cases hernias, and sometimes Scorpio issues can reflect (see the Taurus paragraph above) in issues involving the throat. So this is basically most of Scorpio’s areas of rulership being over-worked (Mars), taxed, stressed or of being in a weakened state due to other psycho-spiritual causes.

So pretty soon we are going to be able to put all this information together from the past five posts. We have touched on the personality dynamics, psycho-spiritual, and emotional correlates of Mars in Pisces in the 8th house opposite Saturn in Virgo in the 2nd, and we have begun to look into the physical manifestation of these energies. So in future posts, be on the lookout for how we bring all this information together.

And because I have a little more space in this post, I will touch on measuring the precision of Medical Astrology. This may involve me getting on my soapbox as I have some strong opinions about this subject. As I mentioned in the first post in this series, Medical Astrology can easily be faulted for being inaccurate (yet another reason not to go out and read Astrological-recipe books!!! Because you might be scared away from true exploration and learning). As we can see from this one aspect between Mars and Saturn, there are hundreds of possible results or combinations of physical manifestation of these energies. And to be more precise in my languaging – we should actually say that the Astrology Chart reflects the actual situation and not the other way around. Astrology does not cause anything! You cannot say, “Oh I have Saturn opposite Mars, so that causes blank.” Not good! Rather, I have blank happening in my body for any number of actual, empirically-provable reasons, and the Astrology Chart reflects that situation. Back to the opening topic, Medical Astrology can become more precise when we look at the whole Natal Chart. And then, when we bring in information from the client’s inherited health history, or environmental factors, and of course we gain even more information from the Timing Astrology.

If we see certain possible predispositions in someone’s Natal Chart, then when certain Transits or Progressions occur, we will have a sense of what might be manifesting in that person’s body. For instance, if someone does NOT have any predispositions for lung problems in their Natal Chart, and they take pretty good care of themselves, then, even if a challenging possible-lung-problem-representing Transit comes along, there will not be a lung issue. Does that make sense? What I am trying to say is that the body and its health is an incredibly complicated subject. So to try to narrow it down to saying, “Oh, you eat beets, so that means you will have eye problems,” is simply absurd. Just like trying to narrow Medical Astrology down to one or two aspects and then say how inaccurate a modality it is, similarly is absurd. Before we can truly judge the efficacy of something, we must be authentically open-minded to the possibility of it working. So give Medical Astrology a chance, and please, use its information to supplement what your licensed medical professionals tell you (yes, go see your doctor if you need to!).

Kirby Moore has been studying Western Astrology since 2003, having studied under several Western Astrologers with backgrounds in Karmic Astrology, Evolutionary Astrology and Hellenistic Astrology. He sees clients professionally for Spiritual Astrology interpretations both in person and over the phone. His private practice also includes Craniosacral bodywork and healing facilitation through healing touch. To schedule an appointment, you can reach Kirby at the following number in the U.S.: four three four, four six five, zero six zero three. Thank you for reading.

*This material is purely for educational purposes only. The author of this post does not claim to diagnose, cure, treat or prevent any disease and if you believe you have a medical problem, you should speak with a licensed medical practitioner as soon as possible.

Published by Kirby Moore

Kirby Moore is a healing facilitator based in the beautiful rolling hills of Charlottesville, Virginia. He does sessions in-person and long distance via Skype and Zoom, working with Spiritual Astrology, Somatic Experiencing, Biodynamic Craniosacral Therapy and Birth Process Work. His healing work is informed by fifteen years of meditation and Qigong practice. He works with client's intentions and deepest longings to attain clear, tangible results. Contact him for more info at (email): kirby [at] mkirbymoore [dot] com

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